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	<title>Comments on: 回應時間</title>
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	<description>只談老實私見。</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Idetrorce</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-50832</link>
		<dc:creator>Idetrorce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting, but I don't agree with you 
Idetrorce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting, but I don&#8217;t agree with you<br />
Idetrorce</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-13446</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, one. It's indeed eye-opening for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, one. It&#8217;s indeed eye-opening for me.</p>
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		<title>By: one</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-13436</link>
		<dc:creator>one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 01:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what's the point? why are you guys so obsessed with "perfect" english???

come on, nobody cares. 

you guys are all freaking chinese, just speak chinese and forget about "perfect english", we are not english and face it, we are NEVER going to speak PERFECT english.

so stop bitching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s the point? why are you guys so obsessed with &#8220;perfect&#8221; english???</p>
<p>come on, nobody cares. </p>
<p>you guys are all freaking chinese, just speak chinese and forget about &#8220;perfect english&#8221;, we are not english and face it, we are NEVER going to speak PERFECT english.</p>
<p>so stop bitching.</p>
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		<title>By: sun bin</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-5620</link>
		<dc:creator>sun bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 06:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well......good point. perhaps i have been sloppy in my choice of words. i questioned why 'yam' chose holland instead of the more well-known england as his example. because, outside the British Isles, everybody knows the difference but nobody cares.

but your examples actually could be used to support mine, that Holland is quite different from Greenwich/Warwick. because, we do not hear as much complain from other provinces in netherland as from the scotts and welsh, do we?
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the real problem we have with 'greenwich', is that given the Toad's track record, he would quite predictably show off his knowledge about 'grenich' if he is aware of that tidbit. it follows that the fact that he did not grab that opportunity to show off implies he did not know.
and since we are almost certain that he should know about Warwick (unless his resume is fake), he is really a bad language learner when he failed to generalize his knowledge on warwick to greenwich.

btw, is there an episode on the town of warwick in that travelogue series? i wonder what he said about that little town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230;&#8230;good point. perhaps i have been sloppy in my choice of words. i questioned why &#8216;yam&#8217; chose holland instead of the more well-known england as his example. because, outside the British Isles, everybody knows the difference but nobody cares.</p>
<p>but your examples actually could be used to support mine, that Holland is quite different from Greenwich/Warwick. because, we do not hear as much complain from other provinces in netherland as from the scotts and welsh, do we?<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>the real problem we have with &#8216;greenwich&#8217;, is that given the Toad&#8217;s track record, he would quite predictably show off his knowledge about &#8216;grenich&#8217; if he is aware of that tidbit. it follows that the fact that he did not grab that opportunity to show off implies he did not know.<br />
and since we are almost certain that he should know about Warwick (unless his resume is fake), he is really a bad language learner when he failed to generalize his knowledge on warwick to greenwich.</p>
<p>btw, is there an episode on the town of warwick in that travelogue series? i wonder what he said about that little town.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowdrops</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-5562</link>
		<dc:creator>Snowdrops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sun bin said "2. Calling the Netherlands “Holland” is like calling the UK “England”. Nothing wrong with it. "

I'd say you haven't tried this line with any of the Scots or the Welsh or indeed the Northern Irish Ulster Unionists eh? 

The UK is NOT THE SAME as England, and I think Sir Alex Ferguson's decision NOT to coach the English football team because he could not trust himself when the match is against Scotland says volumes about how there is something SERIOUSLY WRONG with equating England with the UK. 

May I use your line also "please do a little research ahead of posting."

I have absolutely no axe to grind in relation to the larger point made in the criticisms against that git To Git though, as I can't stand the guy! See my comment also to the previous article on the same subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sun bin said &#8220;2. Calling the Netherlands “Holland” is like calling the UK “England”. Nothing wrong with it. &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say you haven&#8217;t tried this line with any of the Scots or the Welsh or indeed the Northern Irish Ulster Unionists eh? </p>
<p>The UK is NOT THE SAME as England, and I think Sir Alex Ferguson&#8217;s decision NOT to coach the English football team because he could not trust himself when the match is against Scotland says volumes about how there is something SERIOUSLY WRONG with equating England with the UK. </p>
<p>May I use your line also &#8220;please do a little research ahead of posting.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have absolutely no axe to grind in relation to the larger point made in the criticisms against that git To Git though, as I can&#8217;t stand the guy! See my comment also to the previous article on the same subject.</p>
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		<title>By: sun bin</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-4936</link>
		<dc:creator>sun bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"至於陶傑的專業, “才子”好像不是一種專業, “電視節目主持人”也不是他的專業, 依在下愚見, 他的專業是商人, 文字和知識的商人,"

同意YAM同学.请陶先生专注本业.

一点修正,不是"文字和知識的商人".只是纯粹"文字的商人"而已.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;至於陶傑的專業, “才子”好像不是一種專業, “電視節目主持人”也不是他的專業, 依在下愚見, 他的專業是商人, 文字和知識的商人,&#8221;</p>
<p>同意YAM同学.请陶先生专注本业.</p>
<p>一点修正,不是&#8221;文字和知識的商人&#8221;.只是纯粹&#8221;文字的商人&#8221;而已.:)</p>
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		<title>By: sun bin</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-4935</link>
		<dc:creator>sun bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"如果有哪位網友沒用過”荷蘭” 這個名字去叫”Netherland” 這個國家的, 請繼續用石頭丟陶傑。 "

The issue is: 陶傑 is the one who started the fight by throwing stones at people randomly. So your line should be presented to Toad first. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;如果有哪位網友沒用過”荷蘭” 這個名字去叫”Netherland” 這個國家的, 請繼續用石頭丟陶傑。 &#8221;</p>
<p>The issue is: 陶傑 is the one who started the fight by throwing stones at people randomly. So your line should be presented to Toad first. :)</p>
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		<title>By: sun bin</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-4934</link>
		<dc:creator>sun bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Student Yam,

from wiki,
"Holland is a region in the central-western part of the Netherlands. Holland is a former county of the Holy Roman Empire, ruled by the Count of Holland, and later the leading member of the Republic of the Seven United Provinces of the Netherlands (Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlanden, 1581–1795).

North Holland and South Holland lie along the western coast of the Netherlands.The area is today divided between two provinces of the Netherlands: North Holland (Noord-Holland) and South Holland (Zuid-Holland) that were created in 1840....
The name Holland ultimately stems (possibly) from holt land ("wooded land"). A popular, but incorrect, fake etymology holds that it is derived from hol land ("hollow land"), inspired by the low-lying geography of both the Dutch and the English region (Holland, Lincolnshire)."
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland

1. Holland is not from an English word. It is Dutch. Many Europeans (eg French) call Holland "Hollanda"
2. Calling the Netherlands "Holland" is like calling the UK "England". Nothing wrong with it. 

p.s. If you want, you can also talk about Bank Checks and 才子:) But please do a little research ahead of posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Student Yam,</p>
<p>from wiki,<br />
&#8220;Holland is a region in the central-western part of the Netherlands. Holland is a former county of the Holy Roman Empire, ruled by the Count of Holland, and later the leading member of the Republic of the Seven United Provinces of the Netherlands (Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlanden, 1581–1795).</p>
<p>North Holland and South Holland lie along the western coast of the Netherlands.The area is today divided between two provinces of the Netherlands: North Holland (Noord-Holland) and South Holland (Zuid-Holland) that were created in 1840&#8230;.<br />
The name Holland ultimately stems (possibly) from holt land (&#8221;wooded land&#8221;). A popular, but incorrect, fake etymology holds that it is derived from hol land (&#8221;hollow land&#8221;), inspired by the low-lying geography of both the Dutch and the English region (Holland, Lincolnshire).&#8221;<br />
source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland</a></p>
<p>1. Holland is not from an English word. It is Dutch. Many Europeans (eg French) call Holland &#8220;Hollanda&#8221;<br />
2. Calling the Netherlands &#8220;Holland&#8221; is like calling the UK &#8220;England&#8221;. Nothing wrong with it. </p>
<p>p.s. If you want, you can also talk about Bank Checks and 才子:) But please do a little research ahead of posting.</p>
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		<title>By: sun bin</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-4829</link>
		<dc:creator>sun bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex兄,

请收回倒数3-4段. 对于不学无术,哗众取宠之文痞,人人得以诛之.若投鼠忌器,画蛇添足,反失前文之原味.

YAM同学,
号称从War"w"ick毕业,却有不懂Green"w"ich的道理? 剽窃,误读,实小事也.颠倒黑白,指鹿为马,则乃社会祸源.
YAM同学,可知项庄舞剑的典故?
若要为财籽鸣不平,请先体谅我等长期被动接受反智疲劳轰炸之苦.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex兄,</p>
<p>请收回倒数3-4段. 对于不学无术,哗众取宠之文痞,人人得以诛之.若投鼠忌器,画蛇添足,反失前文之原味.</p>
<p>YAM同学,<br />
号称从War&#8221;w&#8221;ick毕业,却有不懂Green&#8221;w&#8221;ich的道理? 剽窃,误读,实小事也.颠倒黑白,指鹿为马,则乃社会祸源.<br />
YAM同学,可知项庄舞剑的典故?<br />
若要为财籽鸣不平,请先体谅我等长期被动接受反智疲劳轰炸之苦.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerrychen9</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-4104</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerrychen9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 13:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>陶杰常常让人感到他太过刻薄，但是很多时候还是有道理的。或者，仅仅当做好玩，不要那么认真，也都不错。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>陶杰常常让人感到他太过刻薄，但是很多时候还是有道理的。或者，仅仅当做好玩，不要那么认真，也都不错。</p>
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		<title>By: 聞.見.思.錄 &#187; 容不下半點批評？</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-3600</link>
		<dc:creator>聞.見.思.錄 &#187; 容不下半點批評？</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 20:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 被人質疑批評的動機，這次絕不是第一遭。之前一場「才子風波」，我也被人質疑有關文章是要來博出名。不過我想，我也不需，也沒必要以這樣的方式，來出位來為自己貼金吧，但我真的希望，Gensan的文章只是他個人的觀點，不是代表《電腦廣場》的立場。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 被人質疑批評的動機，這次絕不是第一遭。之前一場「才子風波」，我也被人質疑有關文章是要來博出名。不過我想，我也不需，也沒必要以這樣的方式，來出位來為自己貼金吧，但我真的希望，Gensan的文章只是他個人的觀點，不是代表《電腦廣場》的立場。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yam</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-2813</link>
		<dc:creator>Yam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>其實本人對於blog主能指出媒體的錯誤係絕對支持, 

由於日前初次到此網, 看見blog主以長篇副批評陶傑, 而且口吻輕挑, 與其批評林行止的口吻判若兩人, 誤以為blog主是那種只會亂戴 “自命才子”帽子, 亂罵 “只能用來呃無知妹妹仔” 的自以為 “言而有物”之徒, 所以出言回應, 
之後再細讀blog主之其他文章, 發現blog主之所以長篇大論, 是因為blog主在論證的時候常提出許多不同証據去支持自己的理論,而且小心查證, 而這正是現在香港社會, 甚至中國人社會一直缺少的, 
本人現對blog主的論證風格表示欽佩之餘, 還望之前如有冒犯之處, 敬請原諒。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>其實本人對於blog主能指出媒體的錯誤係絕對支持, </p>
<p>由於日前初次到此網, 看見blog主以長篇副批評陶傑, 而且口吻輕挑, 與其批評林行止的口吻判若兩人, 誤以為blog主是那種只會亂戴 “自命才子”帽子, 亂罵 “只能用來呃無知妹妹仔” 的自以為 “言而有物”之徒, 所以出言回應,<br />
之後再細讀blog主之其他文章, 發現blog主之所以長篇大論, 是因為blog主在論證的時候常提出許多不同証據去支持自己的理論,而且小心查證, 而這正是現在香港社會, 甚至中國人社會一直缺少的,<br />
本人現對blog主的論證風格表示欽佩之餘, 還望之前如有冒犯之處, 敬請原諒。</p>
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		<title>By: Jansen</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-2812</link>
		<dc:creator>Jansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>我認為咁，至低限度，我們都在這兒討論了很多，一來學了知識，二來也學了處事，也算是一件好事嘛。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>我認為咁，至低限度，我們都在這兒討論了很多，一來學了知識，二來也學了處事，也算是一件好事嘛。</p>
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		<title>By: PK_</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-2811</link>
		<dc:creator>PK_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>唔執著唔會有學問,有學問,學問亦唔會深.就算現實生活對於威定尼who cares, 當中一樣可以大有學問.一番討論加考究再加討論,大家都學左野,幾好.作為讀者,要對網主講聲多謝!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>唔執著唔會有學問,有學問,學問亦唔會深.就算現實生活對於威定尼who cares, 當中一樣可以大有學問.一番討論加考究再加討論,大家都學左野,幾好.作為讀者,要對網主講聲多謝!</p>
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		<title>By: YY</title>
		<link>http://blog.hoiking.org/2006/02/19/639/#comment-2810</link>
		<dc:creator>YY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 05:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>喜唔喜歡陶傑係個人喜好, 不過佢尋晚系光明頂扮北姑真係好搞笑同好有創意。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>喜唔喜歡陶傑係個人喜好, 不過佢尋晚系光明頂扮北姑真係好搞笑同好有創意。</p>
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